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Jan 10, 2013

Muppets and A Memory of Light

A tip o’ me hat to Tom at Literarium for the news.

And sorry to those who came here looking for Kermit the frog.

Muppet: A person who is ignorant and generally has no idea about anything.

A Memory of Light was released today, to the hordes of Robert Jordan fans who have been waiting 20 years for the series end.  Unfortunately for some die-hard fans the eBook will not be released until April and they isn’t happy, leaving (at time of writing) 155 one star reviews on Amazon. 

Such passion from fans, so much passion that you’d think they’d be hanging on every snippet of information, like this from Tor, the publisher:

Tor Books has announced that the ebook edition of A Memory of Light, the exciting conclusion to one of the most epic fantasy series in existence, will be available for e-reader devices on April 9, 2013. The initial book release is scheduled for January 8, 2013.

Tor March 2012 <---quite some time ago

I find the actions taken on Amazon disappointing.  I can't help but see it as a bit of privileged dummy spitting.  The information on the book was out there and the reasons for the ebook's delay as well. 

Jordan’s widow wants it to soar up the NYT charts, maybe she wants the bookend to his career with glory, maybe she wants to get the best return she can. I’ll begrudge her none of those things; she supported him in his writing for all those years and writing good fiction is a several magnitudes harder than reading it.

You can give me a number of reasons why an eBook should be released at the same time – I’ll probably agree with some of them.  I can understand the disappointment that comes from expectations denied (The Hobbit showing in Australia two weeks after everywhere else).

A suitable response would be to contact Tor on their forums, write them,telling of your disappointment. If still angry to vote with your feet and walk away or buy it from some cheap retailer of books.

But for some that’s not good enough, they feel the need to attempt to affect sales of the book by sabotaging the amazon review process and lodging a one star protest.  Like we are trying to stop some evil megacorp from using whale fat to fry their burgers or something.

Reminds me of every privileged, eye bulging, angry customer who thought I had to worship the ground they walked when I worked in retail.  Seriously I teach teens who have better control than this.

This is not a real protest. This is privileged whining - when it comes down to it, someone's just disappointed they didn't get exactly what they wanted when they wanted it and they are acting like they have been personally violated.

Be disappointed, don't be a muppet.

Surely there's enough good fantasy out there to fill in that three month gap. Now go on crucify me in the comments.

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If there was a long-established tradition of, say, simultaneous paperback + ebook releases, then I could well understand the ire of readers. However, tbh, things haven't shaken out yet in the publishing world. An ebook can come out one year, one month, one week, one day BEFORE the print release, or one day, one week, one month or one year AFTER a print release. No standard precedent has been set.

So yes, I can understand disappointment, but the howling and gnashing of teeth is a little over the top. Americans, perhaps? ;)
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I agree, they forget too that publishers have people to pay to, workers with families so I don't mind them maximising profits.

On American's - well let's just say that privileged whining exists in most affluent societies so.. um.. no comment :D
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Oh and long time no see :) How are you?

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Well, thanks Sean. I'm on Twitter as @SandalPress because, well, basically I'm too lazy to have two accounts. LOL Wish I could write faster, wish there were 48 hours in a day, wish I had a wife...you know, the usual. :)
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Have followed you under that account. I am with you on the more time in a day, but more than one wife and there's diminishing returns :)
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Somewhat away from the point of the post I know, but I'm finding watching the evolution of the eBook release schedule "protocol" quite fascinating. To be honest, I originally assumed that publishers would just release the eBook at a more expensive price when hard cover or trade versions of something like A Memory of Light was released, then just drop the price when the paperback version came out.

It's a lot more complex than that though, isn't it?

Back on point, I (dimly) remember uni mates complaining bitterly when the hard cover version of a book came out sometimes up to a year before the paperback version that we could actually afford. People will always find something to complain about. But I must admit I find the whole "star rating wars" thing a bit perplexing at both ends of the spectrum. 1 star reviews as a protest. 5 star reviews before a book even comes out because people are sure they'll like it. Weird.

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What I find increasingly annoying is the consumer that sits back and assumes that they know everything about publishing and all that knowledge points to them getting the end product for as cheap as possible ie if they did this instead of this then they'd be able to sell it for 99c.

I still baulk at any eBook over $10 not because I don't think that's a fair price but because I can't afford it :) (well not at the rate I read :D ).

I do remember being near a well stocked Library when I was at Uni B)
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True, Mark, I have often seen five star ratings for books that hadn't been released yet, and thought it weird. Fans can be stupid about these things. I'm betting that somewhere on a Robert Jordan forum there's someone saying,"Hey, why don't we show what we think of this by giving it a big fat one star rating on Amazon?!?" And all the idiots following it have gone along with it. As for the whole hardback/paperback thing, it was always my policy to brew the hardcover of any new Terry Pratchett book from the library so I could read it immediately and then buy the paperback, knowing I would want my own copy to read over and over(these days I buy them in hc, can't wait!). The same option is open to these folk. For the record, I'm not a Robert Jordan fan. I got about a couple of hundred pages into the first book and gave up. But I'd say the same for any book.
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It wouldn't work in this case, but I often do something similar with eBooks (buy the eBook then if I love the book enough to want it on my bookshelf I buy the paper copy).

I have bought and read Memory of Light as a physical book though - I started reading the books as a teenager and just needed to know how the damn series ended!

If I ever re-read the full series it will be after I retire - it must be a couple of million words long in total. I can't keep up with my to-be-read pile as it is.

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Borrow, not brew!
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That's disappointing - I kind of liked the image of someone brewing hardcover books in the local library!

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I thought brew went well with Terry Pratchett, you know witches brew etc :)
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And yes, Sean, I was disappointed not to find Kermit and Miss Piggy here! ;-)
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How about a muppet version of Lord of the Rings, Kermit as Frodo, Fozzy as Sam...
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Ah, people being silly again. I really don't understand people giving 1 star reviews for silly reasons. It's like giving a 1 star review when the book didn't download properly or something -- there are proper channels for getting that fixed and a 1 star review isn't it.

Reminds me of what happened to Seanan McGuire when her latest book was accidentally sold a month early by Amazon, but with fewer emails to the author. (http://seanan-mcguire.livejournal.com/425907.html)
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I remember that, terrible situation and another example of the entitled throwing a tantrum
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Jonathan Chen · 631 weeks ago

I can fully understand why people post 1 star reviews due to the disappointment of not having an ebook. How else can they show their displeasure? How else can they know that they're NOT a small disenfranchised group? What `proper' channels are there for people to let the publishers know that this sort of idiotic delays only serves to put people off from buying a legal version of the book?

Good on them, I say.
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They can show their displeasure by:

Joining the Tor forums and starting a thread. Tor is the publisher and it's a direct line to the people that would be able to do something. Mind you if they did that, then they would know that Tor were contractually bound to release the books in the manner that they have.

Then I suppose we would have to witness the gross indecency of 1000 privileged snots calling Jordan's widow every name under the sun because they have to wait three months to get an ebook.

Failing this they could have started an online petition voicing their opinion and sent that to Tor, there's any number of free services around that could do this. Social Media campaigns via twitter and facebook are another.

That there is three legitimate ways they could have made their displeasure felt. But instead we have the online equivalent of doing a great big steaming turd in a book store ie the shit doesn't do anything but annoy other people and require somebody else to come and clean up the mess.

You speak of them being disenfranchised. Ye gads if I could issue tickets for abuse of the English language. How are these poor, poor owners of iPads, Kindles and Tablets marginalised or deprived of power? They can choose not to buy the book - an ultimate exercise of power.

But no, like thugs they attempt to bully the publisher and authors agent into delivering what they want by attacking the reputation of the book and thereby, the sales and livelihood of the author.

While it may not be wise to roll out an ebook in such a delayed fashion because of unscrupulous folk.. Those that pirate the books are thieves and if they feel comfortable spitting in the eye of an author, taking something for nothing because they haven't got the self discipline to wait 3 months - well that's on their heads. Not getting what you want when you want it is no justification for depriving an author of their income.

I remain unmoved by these muppets.
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